Drinking age debate. What’s your stand America?

Posted: August 19, 2008 in america
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College presidents from about 100 of the nation’s best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.

My stand is if you’re old enough to pick up an M4 and kill or be killed for your country, vote to decide who become the leaders of this great nation, and be tried as an adult then you can drink alcohol (PERIOD). so I say lower the drinking age to 18 or raise the age to be conscripted to or join the military to 21, the age to vote to 21.

If you can be treated as a person who is responsible and adult enough to make the decision to take or lay down a life in the name of this nation, then you should be recognized as adult and responsible enough to purchase a 6 pack at the gas station.

MADD wants to spark the debate over drunk driving accidents will rise. well if we change the age of soilders to a 21 year old minimum maybe the number of dead teenagers in Iraq WILL GO AWAY COMPLETELY!!! Of course, they aren’t compaing this as an issue of age and adulthood or common maturity levels but as a debate against alcohol, because their lives have been directly affected by drinking and driving. I’m sorry love but the drinking age isn’t stopping it from happening (IN NO WAY AM I PROUD OF THE NEXT STATEMENT BUT AM USING IT SOLELY AS A STAT) when i was 17 years old i got 2 DUIs in 3 weeks. Thankfully I did not hurt anyone, it was reckless and immature, but i had no problem obtaining the alcohol. The only thing the drinking age stops is where kids drink. Im sorry but i know plenty of young adults much more mature and responsible when it comes to alcohol than their elders.

Think about it from a business standpoint. A bar here in Memphis doesn’t admit anone under tha age of 21 because they can’t make money off them by serving them drinks, but what they can do is easily fall for a false ID that states that someone who is probably 19 or 20 is of age to purch the merch. Now That same bar admits that person and that person gets caught by a police officer drinking and so hands the cop the real ID showin a 19 or 20 year old, the bar gets closed down. Now who is to say that that ADULT who may only be weeks younger than the person to their left is less mature than that 21 yr old who decides to drive home and kills your wife and aughter? No one! Age doesn’t determine maturity. I know 18 year olds more mature than myself and i know 30 and 40 year olds who shouldn’t be allowed within 500ft of an alcoholic beverage. Age determines nothing.

I’m not pleading to lower the drinking age, cause well frankly i’m old enough to drink and it no longer effects me, but what I am proposing is that ADULTHOOD SHOULD BE ALL ENCOMPASSING. If you can start your lung cancer career at 18 why not start the liver disease as well? If you can vote for Obama at 18 why not buy a pistol? If you can carry a fully automatic Squad Assault Weapon that “SAW”s people in half into combat and fight and die for the Red White and Blue at 18, then why can’t you hang out with your friends at a bar on saturday night and have a beer like a responsible (keyword next) ADULT!?!?!?!?

Give me your piece…..

  1. mistahjay says:

    I stopped caring about this debate the day I became 21.

  2. bobby moore says:

    agreed. i normally dont post but choose either one or the other its pretty simple either you are an adult or you arent

  3. Michael says:

    I’m kind of split on this issue. If people are going to drink, they’re going to drink. Drinking age laws aren’t really enforced enough to keep underage people from drinking anyway. They just keep underage people from buying alcohol. But you could use this same logic to defend the right of even younger people to drink, and that’s just not acceptable. High school aged or younger should not be drinking. The problem with allowing people as young as 18 to drink is that they’re at the age where they could still be in high school or still hang out with people in high school and be an influence on them.

    I also agree that if you’re old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be old enough to drink a beer. You wouldn’t necessarily have to lower one age or raise the other. You could do both…lower the drinking age a year or two and raise the enlistment age to meet it.

    But I don’t believe that the current law encourages binge drinking. I think this binge drinking problem that colleges have is due to irresponsibility on the part of newcomers to the world of drinking. Once a person gets drunk for the first time, he/she is in the mindset of, “That was awesome! I want to get drunk again!” And for a while there, the person just wants to drink to get drunk. They haven’t learned to pace themselves or how to drink just enough to get a buzz and sustain it. It doesn’t have anything to do with what the legal drinking age is. It has to do with inexperience with alcohol.

    Some people are concerned that these college presidents are just trying to find an easy solution to a problem. How do we deal with the problem of underage drinking on our campuses? We get the drinking age lowered so that if you’re a student on our campus, you can’t possibly be underage! Problem solved! That’s just a cop-out, and if that’s what these college presidents are going for, it’s nothing but gross irresponsibility. And I don’t want that kind of “problem solving” becoming a trend. You don’t solve problems by redefining certain elements so that the problem no longer exists.

    In conclusion, I really don’t know yet. But if the drinking age is ever lowered to 18, I’d rather it not come as a result of this movement because I don’t want to see this method of “problem solving” catching on and gaining legitimacy. Even if that’s not what’s going through the heads of these college presidents, it will still set an example.

  4. Vastlee says:

    I agree completely, either raise the age that you can die for your country, or lower the age you can intentionally get alcohol poisoning. Anyone that disagrees should eat a dick. Stop allowing governing bodies* control over your lives you spineless, brain dead, sheep. If you want to drink, snort, shoot, and smoke yourself into the equivalent of a fucking jelly fish in the privacy of your own home THEN YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT.

    There is a secondary long term problem with the pompous pampering that letting yourselves be controlled like robots. It’s keeping all the dumb fucks who would normally be weeded out of society by natural selection alive, and in doing so allowing them to breed like fucking ants. The dumb are getting dumber and more numerous at an exponential rate. Seriously, think about the mass majority breeders in a nation being below standard IQ. They breed in numbers that make flies jealous and then multiply that snowball effect by 500 years. It’s not like the olden days of ancient Greece where bloodlines were kept pure. Oh no, now the local football linebacker with a high IQ of 79 can get 5 girls pregnant before his senior year. At this rate there won’t even be anyone for the intelligent people to mate with. WE ARE FUCKING DOOMED!!!

    *And by that I mean the blood leeching multi-billion dollar insurance companies and their lobbies to your body of congress. Or in terms those who are reading this will probably understand better… Baaahhh… Baaahhh…

  5. Jesse says:

    I think Michael’s correct, you can change the law but you’re not necessarily going to keep people from breaking it. When I was in the military I had the mindset that since I was enlisted I should be able to drink. I still have that same opinion.

    I think a primary reason drinking goes so far on campus is peer pressure. Ever seen a group of people around one other being held upside down over a keg while they chant something like ‘chug chug?’ Peer pressure. It’s also considered manly to be able to drink more than another so you’ve got that as well.

    They’re young and dumb, and they DON’T KNOW HOW TO DRINK. But, so was I.

  6. Michael says:

    Vastlee is a very angry person.

  7. Debbie says:

    If you’re not old enough to drink – you’re not old enough to join the military. I think the age should be twenty for both. If you have “teen” after part of your age – you can’t drink, vote or sign up.

    The argument of lowering the age “because they are drinking before they are 21 anyway” is asinine. Do people really believe if they lower the drinking age to 18 that 16 and 17 year olds aren’t going to drink … they are already! If we lower the drinking age to when people are “drinking already” – then we’ll need to lower it to what? 8, 9 years old?

  8. jonquinn says:

    “If you can start your lung cancer career at 18 why not start the liver disease as well?”

    Here in the Uk we start our lung cancer career at 16 and our liver desease career at 18. I’d agree the age limits in the U.S is nonsensical, the D.U.I story a good example.

    Anyway, my theory is the main reason teenagers drink heavily etc is that it’s “cool”, i.e, their parents don’t do it or let their kids see them do it, so if the parents drank until they threw up on the streets, that would be regarded as “seriously uncool”, thus teenagers may prefer to sit in their room reading.

  9. Rider says:

    Personally, I don’t care about the drinking age because I’m 25.

    If I was under 21 then of course I’d say lower it.

  10. serdafied says:

    i too am above the drinking age i’m just sayin’ it should be level an adult can do aany and everything any other adult can do

  11. Jon F says:

    when i was 13 years old, my dad took me aside and said”We have to talk”. Turns out there was no talking, he ended up taking two bottles, both scotch, out the cabinet above the sink. We talked about alcohol, and then he poured himself a glass of scotch and looked at me. “you want it, don’t ya?” he said. I nodded and he passed the glass over. “Drink quick, your mom comes home in an hour.” he said. So I drank like there was no tomorrow. Oh my god, the scotch was smooth, but left a warm feeling in my throat. after id drank it dry, my dad took the glass and poured more scotch. “You said you wanted it” he said. I had no problem with drinking some more, so I drank some more. Then I started hating liquor. My dad started pouring more and more scotch every time I finished a glass. after the first bottle, my dad asked”You need to throw up? Yeah? Wait.” he got a bucket and I let all the scotch out. then he gave me the bottle I just drank and put the other back. You keep that bottle and remember this. But if I catch you drinking what I don’t give you, ill beat the shit outa you with that bottle”

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